Pre 8 a.m. comments
Well I've had better starts to the day, let's put it like that!
Sod's Law has kicked in this morning I'm afraid, in that just 2 days after I published a note on Vianet (LON:VNET), they have warned on profits. There is a lot of detail in the note, but the key points as I see it are these:
- H2 trading (Oct 2012 - Mar 2013) below mgt expectations
- However, it is quantified, which helps - operating profit likely to be £3.2m vs £3.9m last year (pre exceptional, pre amortisation), so not disastrous.
- Cash generation remains strong
- Crucially - final dividend maintained at 4p, giving 5.7p for the full year, so that should support the share price.
- Increased costs related to launch of iDraught in USA
- However, that launch has gone ahead this month (Feb 2013), with customers who have over 2,000 bars - very significant, as this is over 10% of the entire existing customer base added in one go, showing big potential for expansion now they are launching internationally (Edit: I misunderstood this point initially, and have clarified with the company that it is a mixture of pilots & roll-outs, so not 2,000 bars all in one go, but gradually).
- Delays in iDraught installations in UK, but "many pub retailers conducting extensive evaluations".
- Vending will trade at breakeven in H2, due to a delayed significant order that will kick in 2013/14.
- Fuel business - reached breakeven in Q4, they anticipate a strong start to 2013/14.
- USA roll-out of iDraught has begun, but £0.4m loss vs expected small profit due to increased start-up costs going for 10 US states, instead of just Colorado as originally planned.
So it seems to me the overall message isn't that bad at all. These are temporary factors, a bump in the growth road, but the business is still strongly profitable & the growth story is intact. Therefore I am expecting to see the shares drop to around 100p today, where I shall be buying more. That's a personal decision, and as always this is in no way intended as advice, readers are urged to do your own research as usual.
Crucially, the maintained 5.7p dividend should prove a strong support for the shares, and today could give an opportunity to lock in a 6% yield if they drop to just below a quid.
I don't see anything in the trading statement which undermines the business model, just temporary glitches.
By my calculations, on a zero tax charge (due to utilisation of tax losses), £3.2m operating profit should translate into 11.5p EPS. So the shares are priced on a modest PER of 10 before the profits warning, hence we might get a chance to buy in around a PER of 8, if it drops 10-20% today, as I expect.
Hopefully we should see how a value share can absorb a profits warning without doing too much damage, but we'll have to wait & see!
Right, I'll publish this at 7:57am, and report back with more news of the day a bit later.
Post 8 a.m. comments
Vianet has completely dominated my day, and my hunch on price was right. After an initial spike down in the first few minutes of trade, to below 90p, VNET shares gradually recovered throughout the morning, settling at just under 100p.

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I've noticed this is a pattern with profits warnings lately - the initial plunge seems to be worst move, and a good time to buy, with most shares that warn on profits recovering around 10% intra-day after the initial drop. So a good trading idea there - i.e. if a profits warning is not too bad, but the shares initially spike down, one could wait for them to stop falling with your finger on the buy button, then buy some for a short-term trade. Obviously this approach needs great care, to only pick sound companies with profits warnings which are less serious.
I managed to buy two tranches of VNET at 87.8p and 90p today, which meant that I locked in a cracking dividend yield of around 6.5% on that latest, and cheapest lump of shares I've bought.
I spoke with a Director later in the day, and am satisfied that the dividend is safe, it's not a maybe, it's a firm yes from the company. Also, if you look at the figures, the total dividends cost £1.6m, which is roughly half what reduced operating profit will be for this year. There is no tax, and very little interest charge, so that means cashflow should be ample to continue paying the dividends, and hence my view is that the now very high yield is sustainable, and therefore should underpin the shares around the current price.
The most embarrassing thing for me, is that I recently helped set up a new company called Equity Active, with an old friend, and a team of very bright analysts & financial PR/IR people, with a plan to shake things up a bit in the small cap space by idnetifying & publicising high quality, under-valued shares, then helping those companies improve their Investor Relations (IR).
My role is to select the best quality, most under-valued target companies, and write a brief introductory "broker note" on them, which is circulated to a large mailing list of City people & investors. The beauty is that the notes are completely independent, as they are not paid for by anyone, we issue them free as an introduction to the company, and of course they are shares that I already personally hold, so just like everyone who posts on bulletin boards, I'm talking my own book - never a problem with anyone, as long as what you say is true, and you disclose that you hold the shares.
Anyway, the first report I did, earlier this week, was on Vianet (VNET). Talk about Sod's Law kicking in, just 2 days after issuing my note, they warn on profits! So it's been a bit of a mad scramble to deal with all the fall-out from that today. Anyway it's all interesting, and it has certainly got people talking about Equity Active, my phone has been ringing like mad all day! A bit of a baptism of fire into the world of financial PR!
Anyway, I'll be working on a more detailed update note over the weekend and issuing that on Monday morning, which I hope will bring some clarity to the profits warning. It's essentially just delays on new contracts, and a decision to accelerate the USA roll-out, with more up-front costs. Hence I believe the panic should subside, and investors will look at growth again in a few weeks' time, especially when the positive contract news is announced in due course. I like buying when sentiment is lousy, because these things pass, as long as the underlying company is sound, which I think this one is.
Anyway, I've belatedly looked through all the other results announcements for today, and there's actually nothing else that fits my remit. So I don't feel quite so bad for abandoning my post earlier today to focus on Vianet.

For your general amusement, I got my Brighton Half Marathon official picture today, this is me putting on a spurt just before the finish line last Sunday after running 13 miles. Don't I look fat! Horrendous, am going on a serious diet having seen this. Thought it might give you a laugh anyway & thanks again for all the charity sponsorship.
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My problem with Vianet, & why I kept my position size v.small, is the constant slippage of timelines. Each part of the group now is performing behind where management forecast 6 months, 1 year, 2 years ago. It damages their credibility.
The US expansion story is potentially exciting but other divisions much less so.
That said, under 100p I'd say its worth holding purely due to divi & US potential.
In reply to darlocst, post #1
Morning darlocst,
Yes those are fair comments. The timescales for VNET's growth have been slipping, but that's often the case with new products & markets. Things rarely pan out as planned.
The beauty of VNET shares is that the growth potential is thrown in for free, and the shares are underpinned by the core Brulines business, which is just a cash cow that finances the (maintained) 5.7p total dividends.
I've just bought more at 87.8p and 90p, since that has locked in a dividend yield of around 6.5%!
Plus I think there's potential for the shares to double or more with a 1-2 year view, as the growth begins.
There were actually some positives in today's statement, e.g. that the USA launch has started, with 2,000 bars being fitted with iDraught units, in 10 States. That's more than 10% of the entire UK installed base in one hit!
The fuel division doesn't interest me at all, and it's at least trading at breakeven, rather than loss-making.
Vending order just delayed, so should kick in in 2013/14. This year's disappointment is next year's soft comparative, so since I always approached this with a 1-2 year investment horizon, I'm only irritated by today's statement. It doesn't seem to undermine the fundamental investing case at all.
I calculate that EPS for 2012/13 should be around 11.5p, so at 90p the with a 5.7p maintained dividend, these look great value to me. How much downside can there be on that sort of price, especially when about 70% of group revenues are recurring, on long term contracts? Good buying opp at 90p in my opinion, but DYOR as usual.
Regards, Paul.
I have been keeping an eye on these for a while. Today's annoucement prompted me to delve a bit deeper. Reading back through previous statements you get the feeling management have a tendency to over promise and under deliver. I accept Paul point though that rolling out new products rarely runs smoothly.
I had trouble getting my head around the various profit numbers used in their statements. I think investors need to ignore the EBIT per exceptional pre amortisation line. In 2010 and 2011 Vianet capitalised about £1.5m of software development cost. In the same period it expensed around £300k through the P&L and lumped this in with the acquisition related amortisation charges. I am willing to ignore the latter type of amortisation charge as this is really goodwill but the amortisation of software costs just can't be casually ignored in the same way.
The high level of exceptional charges are not unusual for a business under going such change but investors will not want this to become a habit.
Paul, is the EPS figure you are using adjusted for amortisation and exceptionals?
I do like the potential of the US roll out. It is a vast market and offers scope for earnings growth in the future.
I was tempted to jump in this morning but I'm reluctant to do so without more detailed research and I would probably want to get rid of something else to make room.
Paul - for moments like this one needs to remember Teddy Roosevelt's speech to troops at the Sorbonne...
My favourite quote ever. By the way - that's the first Equity Active note I've read - excellent format - will discuss.
Paul
Are you happy with the treatment of intangible assets at VNET
I guess the £17m+ goodwill must arise from past acquisitions, but am less clear about the "Other intangible assets".
Your Equity Active note mentions neither of the above.
Thoughts welcome. Thank you, Martin
I've just spoken to the company, and am pretty comfortable with everything.
The dividend is safe, so no worries there.
USA expansion is potentially pretty exciting.
So at 98p currently, one is locking in a near-6% divi yield, with good long term growth too.
They indicated contract delays are not going cold, just delayed for technical reasons.
I'll be issuing a full note on Monday.
Regards, Paul.
On the first time of reading one of Paul's articles, I fiound it to be both interesting and knowledgeable.
Valid comments above however I would suggest weconsider two things First company figues do not go up and up and up, they fluctuate. The clarity oif the data presented instills confidence in this company . There will of course be a tendency to over egg the future and the management here need to think about their credibility in these matters. Having run a company and learning the hard way, I am mildy sympathetic and look forward to a nice divi! Thanks Paul for your analysis, soothes a troubled mind over the weekend and (you won't have that ponch if you keep running!!!)
Cheers david
Paul, just a guess but I reckon the loss on this one is a drop in the ocean compared to the gains your favoured stocks have shown over recent times. And for those of us who were still thinking about vianet its a good buying opportunity (though so much better had been awake when the RNS came out).
Really enjoying your blog and wish you every success.
I've published a detailed update note on Vianet's profit warning through the company I'm involved in, Equity Active. To view the note, please click here (opens pdf). It explains the profit warning in tabulated form which I think aids understanding. Let me know what you think of the note, as feedback would be very helpful.
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65,000 shares Director buy just announced at around 100p a share. Encouraging!
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