Stockopedia 2.0

In reply to nigelpm (post #164)

I deleted the cookie this morning, but was asked to log-in again earlier. 

I have noticed this logging-out problem most (I think) when navigating over to the Articles.

In reply to StrollingMolby (post #177)

You will be asked to login once after you have deleted the cookie but no more after that.  Has worked for me since saturday.  Are you sure you removed all cookies relating to stockopedia.

I don't get the option to pick or choose on the work PC - all cookies were deleted.  Having logged back in and viewed a few pages, I returned and noticed I couldn't give a thumbs-up to an article as I wasn't logged in.  Will report back if it happens again.

In reply to doverbeach (post #176)

the thread author come up on on mouseover of the Thread name - not sure if you have noticed that, SW10?

er, no - my turn to have missed something useful this time!

SW10

Quite a big announcement for you regulars... You can now name 'collaborators' on your threads... details here...

http://www.stockopedia.co.uk/article/view/31933/threads-as-wikis-forum-collaboration-is-here

In reply to promethean (post #181)

Nice one Prom

Hmmm, not so sure on that one - while I can see the value for some situations as well as the right for those that do the most work to keep some stuff to themselves, this might kill the site if it becomes full of private wiki type threads that mere motals like me can't read.........

Unless I've read the announcemant wrongly this early ;-)

In reply to oilretire (post #183)

I think you've read it wrong.  Before only the thread creator can update the header - now a 'collaborator' can, so the thread header can be kept up-to-date easier, hence the term 'private wiki'. However anyone can read it and post comments, just like before.

db

Indeed Db.

I like the idea since it means that you can have a trusted group who can watch say when the originator is away on hols or simply didnt get up in time to pick up some news - as happened today with PCI when oi beat me to it re the Algeria RNS. Okay, that went in the thread but I will mention it in the thread header.

Avoiding trashing of a header by others - as could happen with a more public wiki - is a PITA to sort out - whilst the miscreants woudl be banned (?) it would take time to correct what was done.

Yes, oilretire - for all intents and purposes a thread is still exactly the same as it was.  But the author can just nominate others to help if they wish.  In future we'll make this easier with the ability to create groups - but for the time being it's nice and simple.  All threads are still public by default, and there won't be any private threads.

In reply to doverbeach (post #168)

I think the problems is that the New number itself is in such a silly colour scheme that it looks like a small additional note, not a key field.  Also when you mouseover it there is no underline link, so people may not even realise that is is clickable (ok there is the cursor change, but that may be missed).

But even then the New field is a long way over to the right and I guess it feels more natural to click on the thread title.

Yup - I'll have to admit that I didn't notice that either! Does that make it a full house?

;-)

Cheers guys, told you I could have errrrrm, did read it wrong :-)

One oddity I observe (though not new to S'pedia 2.0 but I haven't commented on it before)...

When you re-edit a post, the editor provides a much broader array of editing gadgets than when you first enter a post! Given the issues with tinymce, mentioned previously, perhaps you'd kill two birds by requiring the user to click a button to activate the editor before starting to type a new post - both resolving browser issues with the editor and giving the user the full-array of editing tools when a post is first created.

Cheers,

Mark

In reply to marben100 (post #189)

perhaps you'd kill two birds by requiring the user to click a button to activate the editor before starting to type a new post - both resolving browser issues with the editor and giving the user the full-array of editing tools when a post is first created.

I suggested that some while ago now and can't recall having had a response. I don't see why one needs to bring up the editor unless someone is wanting to post - and one click to bring up the editor is hardly onerous for people who are about to make several hundred clicks in a posting!

ee

This is just to reassure you all that, even if we don't respond, we are looking into each suggestion. In this case, we think that it's a good idea but only if we can engineer a way for the Javascript not to load in the background until you click the button, otherwise it won't save any load time, so that's what we're experimenting with behind the scenes. Please keep all the ideas coming. Cheers, M

ee/marben...

Regarding the popup editor... it is possible yes, but the way the editor works means the majority of the javascript is downloaded on initial page load... i.e. it doesn't load when you click the button - it has to be loaded previously.  So it ain't that simple I'm afraid.

re. the editor... we can configure the buttons however we want, but obviously there's a tradeoff between keeping it simple for the majority of posts but powerful enough to format more extensively on demand.... we don't want the text editor to look daunting... as sw10 would say... "add more lightness".

I'm an infrequent visitor, but since the change I seem to have lost some functionality. How do I create a simple front page where posts by posters I'd like to follow are linked, and certain threads also?

Groundhog

In reply to Groundhog (post #193)

Currently you can click 'Add to Favourites' on any thread, and you'll see it in your Favourite threads  section.  The 'follow' feed will be following shortly.... but a basic version is available here..

We are in the process of merging 'followed members' into the 'favourites' section.

Essentially, all stocks, members or other tags that you'd like to follow will funnel into your favourites feed.  It's still in development but should become the key feature on the site. 

Hope you understand - we are extremely aware that this will be the top feature on the site... so bear with us - we need to get it 100% right.

In reply to promethean (post #192)

Ooh! "reply" worked that time ;0)

we can configure the buttons however we want, but obviously there's a tradeoff between keeping it simple for the majority of posts but powerful enough to format more extensively on demand.... we don't want the text editor to look daunting... as sw10 would say... "add more lightness".

 

However:

a) It seems inconsistent to have different facilties when editing a post from those available when you first create it.

b) the majority of editing is done when the post is first created, so that's when you need all the gadgets most!

c) As was commented on the tinymce thread, the quality of the text editor is one of the distinguishing features of S'pedia and editor toolbars are something that pretty much any computer user will be familiar with. Using all the gadgets isn't mandatory, after all.

d) Again, as suggested previously, having some user options on this might be the way to go, with the default being for a simply, quick and basic editor but with the user able to select an "advanced editing" option. It is important that selection of such an option is remembered and does not have to be chosen every time.

Cheers,

Mark

In reply to promethean (post #192)

Thanks for the explanation guys.

It does seem clunkily odd that the editor javascript is effectively downloaded with every page impression, when it is actually going to be used only about 1% of the time.

cheers

ee