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More here from the Houston Chronicle and the BBC.
Cause not yet known, but given that Transocean say the rig was drilling then I can only assume there's been a blowout. Another possibility may be a problem during testing, though that wouldn't really fit with the 'drilling' statement.
Estimates of 11 to 15 people missing, which would be more than just the drillfloor crew.
SW10
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Edit: Dedicated response website available here: http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com
Edit: An thread dedicated to the investment implications of this event has been created here (BP: A crisis-play?)
Edit: BP's ROV cams assembled on a single page, thanks to Mr.Contrarian and his www.freesharedata.com site.
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Hi passinthru,
Fair point of course -and one that will apply to many players in this.
If, of course, contracts are that flexible re location, then one can see why Noble would make their claim. For example, arguably Anadarko could use another deepwater rig off Mozambique ;-)
rgds
ee
In reply to emptyend, post #313
In the Kent Wells video, he indicated that once the LMRP cap was in place the choke & kill lines used for the top-kill operation, which were still in place and connected to a manifold, would be used to abstract further hydrocarbons to surface. I guess that when those lines are opened up it will reduce the pressure on the LMRP cap, reducing the rate of methane-hydrate formation, which may allow the cap to be sealed more tightly as well.
Cheers,
Mark
To my untrained eye it seems that the capture rate has improved from last night looking at http://www.freesharedata.com/bp-spill-cams. I have been trying to measure the distance the "plume" extends over the triangular "fangs" at the bottom of the LMRP.
Obviously very subjective and probably depends a lot on the angle of the shot but it looks to me like a lot more of white metal is being shown now.
So glass half full again let's assume the total flow rate is something like 15K. I think a lower bound of 12K was calculated and most people think it is 19K but I'll go for 15K to be optomistic.
We know they are capturing about 10K as of yesterday and they can improve on this a bit (I think they have judging by the "fang" test). So lets go for 12K from a tuned LMRP. They still have to connect up the choke and kill lines and take O&G off there and this might give them say another 2K( complete guess ). Optimistically then we could be down to 1-2K a day of spill for another 50days until they get the relief well drilled.
So let's assume the first 48 days spilt 15K/day then they have another 50 days at 2K this is a total spill size of 720 + 100K = 820K barrels. Pretty terrible but certainly not the armageddon - end of BP numbers that were once flying around.
They continue to skim/burn and disperce all the time.
To be honest my biggest worry is the oil getting into the marsh land which is indeed a terrible problem to cleanup. Human access is hard and also even when you get there removing the oil would be like trying to clean thousands of hectares of straw fields sprayed in oil with a toothbrush. This is not going to be easy or cheap.
I'm not dwelling too much on who is going to end up paying the most here. I can't see the other parties getting out of this scott free but until the court cases start it is pointless speculating.
My average is 533p and I might start to drip in a bit more once my bank pref dividends come rolling in again next month.
Log
In reply to loglorry, post #328
To be honest my biggest worry is the oil getting into the marsh land...
I know the Gulf Coast somewhat(having lived in Alabama for a couple of years) and it is pretty typically American (i.e. bigger than Blackpool). My guess is that:
So, it is possible that the fuss at the moment is greater than the actual event warrants. Nonetheless, it is the fuss that will drive the short term SP (while the real 'cost' will drive the longer term SP).
I have bought some BP this morning.
AA
AA
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/06/us/06rig.html
In reply to snaj, post #330
AIUI the oil industry has been completely and utterly clear about who is in charge of the clean-up.....namely BP! There is no debate about that whatsoever.
However, the politicians have flip-flopped between a) saying that THEY are in charge (via Thad Allen) and b) seeking to dump on BP for not doing things as fast as they would like. They really can't have it both ways!
Interesting article, apart from that - wonder what SW10 and passinthru 's comments are?
In reply to snaj, post #330
Very interesting article (note that it is 4 pages long - easy to miss that and only look at the first page). These comments seem to substantiate some of passinthru's thoughts:
However, ISTM that the author misses the point that you can't simply "halt the operation". Operations being undertaken at the time of the accident had precisely that intent: to suspend the well! ISTM that there was something of a catch-22 situation: the BOP couldn't be safely tested because of ongoing operations to make the well safe, however, those operations were in themselves unsafe without a properly working BOP.
From the political POV this too is interesting:
Mark
In reply to snaj, post #330
That's a great article. It perfectly highlights the weakness of the legislation that covers these operations. How anyone can operate safely 'by exception' is unfathomable. One thing I've tended to take issue with in the reporting of all this stuff, is the underlying implication that these operations are too difficult, or inherently dangerous, or at the forefront of human technological endeavour. This is a misconception and it's simply not true. Just because economists or journalists or tv presenters don't understand the issues, doesn't mean that nobody else does! I'd like to be clear here; safety is not 'too hard'. Such an approach is a cop out, a lazy man's solution. These systems are hazardous, but they can be made safe by applying some basic principles that I tried to lay-out towards the beginning of this thread.
The absolutely crucial point identified in the article is in the testing of the BOP and the apparent federal authorisation to skip a test. This is unprofesional and potentially criminal. The test frequency has a huge impact on the theoretical safety of the item because of the time aspect of failures. The longer you leave something untested the more likely it is to fail on demand. A single skipped test would have an impact on the calculations and, unless Transocean performed new calculations for the new test frequency (and I VERY much doubt that they have), they are staring down the barrel of a gun. Cameron are probably in the clear if the contents of this article are accurate. They'll be riding into the sunset and buying up their own stock.
I really really would kill for a copy of the safety case. I hope it is made available during the trial(s).
Cheers,
ignatius
In reply to ignatius, post #333
Oops.
I hope someone's done a risk assessment for that eventuality...
:-)
SW10
In reply to snaj, post #330
You almost get the impression from the article that drilling in the GOM is at best a very haphazard business. Can we put this to rest once and for all. Best practice - that which has been developed over many thousands of successful wells was not followed with this well. Barriers were not in place. Industry standards have been proved for the purpose of drilling. For the purpose of drilling in this depth of water and the consequences of the oil spill I will leave to the inquiry and inevitable change in procedures that will result.
I cannot speak for others, but during periods when I was aboard a rig, understanding that the conditions downhole were engineered to a known practice that should make the BOP irrelevant. Of course its nice to know it is there though and working! I might say at this time as many others I speak to (and friends at Total who will be reading this know) the BOP when retrieved to the surface might just show severe damage by tubulars from the well blowout rendering the BOP unusable. Not making excuses for Transocean as the BOP seems to have had some leaks anyway. Time and investigation will tell. And by the way, whenever I was on a drilling rig there was never any question on who was in charge of the downhole operations.
BP have been excellent in their response. However, they are too experienced not to have known from just hours after the blowout that cause and effect was going to land on their shoulders. Yes, they will try and recoup some costs from third parties, my own opinion is that the likes of Halliburton etc will bring logs and documentation of events to court pointing in a direction that BP will not like.
Looking ahead I see a fudge emerging whereby BP and others in the industry swallow some pride and absord costs by developing new systems and regulations and practice. These might be fine for all that happens above the sea bed. Salt drilling and multi system annular mud programmes aside, good engineering practice already exists.
As has been stated above, public relations need to be repaired and this will take years. Killing the well will take some pressure off.
passinthru
In reply to passinthru, post #335
I agree.
I agree with that too. I think they've played an extraordinarily straight bat and (appear to) have hidden nothing about the event nor their subsequent efforts.
I'm less sure about this. The thing that continues to bother me about this is the almost-exclusive focus on the engineering downhole. Note I use the word exclusive - I do accept that it has relevance.
It's the explosion
I still believe that the turning point in all of this was the explosion and I hope that the inquiry looks into that. If there wasn't an explosion, we'd have been in the unpleasant position of a well streaming thousands of barrels of oil and associated gas into the derrick. Nasty.
An evacuation would have taken place, power would have been shut down in some areas and the rig would have been able to remain on station with it's emergency crew. Footage of the blowout filmed from helcopters would have been all over screens and a backlas against Big Oil and BP would have been in full swing. Still no reason for a party.
BUT
But at least there would still have been a stable platform from which to address the problem, as well as an intact riser. Then the guys with fancy names and even fancier badges* could have had a go at bringing it under control.
It has happened
Consider that 33 years previously (almost to the day) the Ekofisk B blowout had an initial flow estimated at 28,000 bpd, with around 202,380 bbls released in total. The well was capped after just seven days.
Up to 30 to 40% of the oil evaporated after its initial release and the Norwegian Petroleum Directorate reckoned the total spill to have been between 80,000 bbls and 126,000 bbls, whilst rough seas and higher-than-average air temperatures aided the break up of much of the oil. There was no significant enviromental damage and no shoreline pollution.
Of course, Ekofisk is a platform rather than a floater, but the key remains that there was no fire. More here from the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's National Ocean Service site.
Well engineering will be an important focus, but I think the investigation really must look at why there was a fire and why the Deepwater Horizon sank.
SW10
* By which I mean the successors to Red Adair, Boots and Coots et al.
In reply to passinthru, post #335
The distinguishing and very difficult factor with this well is that catastrophic problems occurred at great depth. Hayward has been happily listing-off items which are "a first" - not because they haven't been done before but because they haven't been done at depth!
There will certainly be a raft of new regulations and perhaps some new systems. These might be as simple as saying that there are to be no regulatory waivers PERIOD given when drilling at depth? But it is surely going to be a process of setting incremental belt 'n braces safeguards rather than much that is radically new (or expensive to design).
One of my favourite books as a kid was a book about railway accidents, which chronicled how the safety systems that underpinned the modern railways were developed incrementally over many decades as a direct result of a series of crashes and failures. Eventually failures of materials, errors in working practices and other faults were all identified and elimnated one by one.....and then human error or someone taking "a risk too far" would throw up another accident - from which fresh lessons would again be learned and new practices introduced. BUT there is always the pressure of continual pushback from people at the sharp end, keen to be more efficient or prepared to cut corners etc etc....and so, sooner or later, accidents WILL happen. The fact that they are extremely rare (at least on the scale of this one) is actually an indicator that there is quite a bit that is being done correctly - and I'd suggest that, even without new procedures or processes, it is very unlikely that another major incident of this type will occur any time soon....because the "pushback" will be working in the opposite direction and everyone will have "safety first" right at the front of their thoughts.......
...the problem with safety issues is always that, unless people have been recently reminded with hard evidence of the reasons for all the precautions, there will always be someone somewhere who eventually takes one risk too many. Ultimately one cannot completely eliminate human nature!
ee
ps...entirely agree with SW10 that the central problem from which everything else flowed was that they lost the rig. This caused the multiple points of damage to the riser and complicated everything else that followed.
Goldman have come out with the note below. They seem to be pretty close to my estimates regarding the spill size. Maybe I can get a Goldman Sacs bonus too :-) It seems to have knocked the price but they still see 38% upside from here so can't be too bad:-
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June 7, 2010 10:23 AM EDT
After incorporating the potential damages from the Gulf of Mexico spill, Goldman Sachs no longer sees upside in BP plc (NYSE: BP) beyond the sector and has lowered its rating from Buy to Neutral.
In its analysis on the cost of the spill, the firm said based on the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill of 250 kbls which cost Exxon (NYSE: XOM) US$3.8 billion, or $10 billion in current dollars, it will cost BP US$40,000 per barrel spilled, or US$10 bn per 250 kbls.
The firm is assuming the new containing cap can collect total of 12 kbls/d from a total spill of 15 kbls/d until the first relief well halts the oil flow 100 days after the initial spill. This implies a spill of 800 kbls and a liability of US$36 billion, or US$23 billion post-tax.
In its analysis, the firm assume BP will not pay a dividend for the next two quarters and will resume at US$10c per quarter from 4Q.
The firm's new price target of $52 (from $69) still offers 38% upside, but this is close to the median of the sector
More gob flapping from the White House. This time from the Press Secretary.
Talk about condeming a man before the case has even got to court:
In reply to emptyend, post #337
One of my favourite books as a kid was a book about railway accidents....
I always suspected you were a bit odd, ee ;-)
From the article;
If a blowout were to occur, BP said in its plan, the first choice would be to use a containment dome to capture the leaking oil. But regulators did not require that a containment dome be kept on the rig to speed the response to a spill. After the rig explosion, BP took two weeks to build one on shore and three days to ship it out to sea before it was lowered over the gushing pipe on May 7.
Why would regulators demand a 'dome' be kept on the rig. It would be a fat lot of use now wouldn't it?
I thought it was funny.
One other thing, it seems like all roads are leading to the BP company man and it looks like he or she is being pinned with a huge amount of the responsibility for this accident. To be clear here, that's a bullshit argument in the legal sense. People put under pressure make bad decisions, and they certainly can't be relied upon to take the correct emergency action when the world starts to fall apart. One must assume that people always get it wrong - I get it wrong all the bloody time; these guys aren't super-human.
So the shoulda, woulda, coulda procedural arguments don't hold much water for me. It's all about the failure of the engineered and tested systems. The BOP to minimise the inventory and SW10's mysterious spark to cause the explosion.
Cheers,
ignatius
In reply to emptyend, post #337
There will certainly be a raft of new regulations and perhaps some new systems. These might be as simple as saying that there are to be no regulatory waivers PERIOD given when drilling at depth? But it is surely going to be a process of setting incremental belt 'n braces safeguards rather than much that is radically new (or expensive to design).
Quite agree and to this point I was careful to use the word 'fudge' but not in a sense of cutting corners. Every health and safety twonk on the planet will want his/her input and after tens of thousands of words digested what we will actually end up with is quite a lot of what we already have. Most operators (BP included regardless of the media comments) have quite strong safety records because they act on well understood procedures. But as I said very early on in this disaster - are we getting out of our depth!
Hi SW10
I still believe that the turning point in all of this was the explosion and I hope that the inquiry looks into that.
You will know more about this class of semi and its safety systems than me. I can quite understand the thinking behind your comments that a ignition should not have taken place. In fact, as to be nearly criminal that ignition took place. I cannot help but think in the months ahead in a court or in a presidential inquiry the CEO of Transocean is going to say something along the lines of - "the severity of the blowout was such that any safety system could be compromised and just why was oil and gas flying through the derrick anyway!" And of course the counter arguments will be just as predictable.
The best to hope for is that as time passes the rhetoric by all parties should diminish, particularly, as I believe they all need each other. As I have said - I expect to see Transocean still drilling deep ocean wells for BP and Halliburton doing the cementing. Say la vie.
Matt Simmons was being interviewed with Dylan Ratigan last night. I have not put a link to save you from the insult and waste of time. Briefly - Simmons was saying that the oil is not coming from the well that BP are trying to capture from but a 'open hole' area somewhere else in the GOM. This area is spewing out over 100k bbls per day. They 'BP' should be using tankers to suck up the massive oil plumes now floating submerged near the sea bed. Might have the above slightly mixed up as I was checking to see it was not actually 1st April at the time. Save us from 'experts'.
passinthru
Seems as if there could be another rig leaking in the GoM:
BP is also bringing in a second vessel to help in the processing since the current one is nearing its capacity (15000 bopd). The second vessel should be on site in two or three days and add 5000 - 10000 bopd of additional capacity.